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Conversations about creativity, adaptive leadership, and innovation.

In the Sandbox Podcast

Innovation within the leadership and ministry space isn’t new. There are countless individuals and groups of people who have gone before us and who have successfully adapted to social and cultural change. People who have spearheaded movements, inspired others, and who have made ministry what it is today.

Wouldn’t it be nice to pick their brain, ask them questions, and sit under the sound of their voice for a while?

The In the Sandbox Podcast is that opportunity!

We talk with powerful non-profit leaders, influential ministry visionaries, and other incredible individuals who are shaking-up what leadership and ministry looks like in the 21st century.

We’ve had incredible guests like:

And we can’t wait to share more conversations with you…

But…what does it all mean?

Our Mission

To have meaningful conversations that not only inspire us, but that inspire you to start exploring how you can adopt innovative thinking in your own community and ministry space.

Every one of our guests on the podcast have had one common thread: 


Taking action despite challenge, discouragement, and resistance. 

They didn’t get to where they are, or accomplish all they’ve accomplished, by holding back, succumbing to fear, or feeding into timidity. 

They overcame. They pushed forward. They committed to making necessary change, and they didn’t let nay-sayers prevent them from getting it done.

This is the energy, the mindset, and the courage that we want you to have access to. Our hope is that these conversations spark something new within you. That they would spark:

To pursue the actions that you feel inspired to take as a leader and member of your organizations, ministries, and communities.

So…will you join us in the sandbox?

Tune in here, or on any listening platform!


Season 3 Coming Soon!